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By PhDHopeful3 January 12, 2017 in Biology

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Hi everyone,

I just heard some information that surprised me today that I wanted to share (as it's quite different than previous post-interview acceptance rates that I had heard for Harvard BBS). There are ~70 people attending the first (January) interview weekend, and ~50 people attending the second (Feb) interview weekend. They're also still expecting to hear back from a few more people who haven't yet signed up.

They are looking to fill 65-70 spots for this cycle. 

I was quite surprised, because I'd heard for Harvard BBS that if you get an interview, you're pretty much good (~90% post-interview acceptance rate), but these numbers don't indicate that.

Just wanted to share this info, as I know people are often talking about acceptance rates!

I should have added that I was told that, yes, more offers go out than the 65-70 spots that they're looking to fill (makes sense, as we know students will choose other programs for various reasons). But absolutely not to the tune of 80-90% of interviewees receiving an offer of admission.

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January 14, 2017

I can tell you fundamentally none of what you're saying is true. Yes they're trying to fill ~65 spots, because the program is large, but that is the post-acceptance matriculation number. They expect a

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January 17, 2017

I actually found some data on HILS website and did some math based on the data. The result confirms what @Epigenetics just said: (source: https://gsas.harvard.edu/programs-of-study/divisions/harv

February 6, 2017

Got an offer via a phone call from BBS. Good luck to everyone!

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Thank you for this information! Better to go in with a competitive environment than feeling overconfident.

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Exactly! I think I was feeling too confident before I found this out!

I don't think this is as bad as it seems at first glance. 70 admits out of a group of 120 is approximately a ~60% acceptance rate, but you have to consider that even top programs don't have 100% enrollment rates. The students that end up getting offers from Harvard are going to be getting offers from other excellent schools, so they always have to send out more offers than they have spots in order to fill out their incoming class. This means that the the actual post-interview admissions rate has to substantially higher than 60% - I figure that somewhere around 80% is reasonable based on the numbers you mentioned.

Edit: Didn't see OP's edit to his original post. But I do think it's reasonable to expect an 80% rate.

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I can tell you fundamentally none of what you're saying is true. Yes they're trying to fill ~65 spots, because the program is large, but that is the post-acceptance matriculation number. They expect a large number of people not to attend, so if they anticipate a matriculation rate of 50% (from what I've heard that's about what they expect) then they have to accept 130 people to get that. I know for a fact their post-interview admission rate is 90-95%. Source: I work in a BBS lab.

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1 hour ago, Epigenetics said: I can tell you fundamentally none of what you're saying is true. Yes they're trying to fill ~65 spots, because the program is large, but that is the post-acceptance matriculation number. They expect a large number of people not to attend, so if they anticipate a matriculation rate of 50% (from what I've heard that's about what they expect) then they have to accept 130 people to get that. I know for a fact their post-interview admission rate is 90-95%. Source: I work in a BBS lab.

Whew! That is reassuring!

2 hours ago, Epigenetics said: I can tell you fundamentally none of what you're saying is true. Yes they're trying to fill ~65 spots, because the program is large, but that is the post-acceptance matriculation number. They expect a large number of people not to attend, so if they anticipate a matriculation rate of 50% (from what I've heard that's about what they expect) then they have to accept 130 people to get that. I know for a fact their post-interview admission rate is 90-95%. Source: I work in a BBS lab.

Wow that really relieved me! I feel kind of surprised by the ~50% yield rate tho, given that the MD and MD-PhD program at HMS both have 75%+ yield rates. Maybe many people who get in Harvard BBS tend to have multiple offers from other top programs, but getting into multiple top schools for MD/MD-PhD is way harder?

I actually found some data on HILS website and did some math based on the data. The result confirms what @Epigenetics  just said:

(source:  https://gsas.harvard.edu/programs-of-study/divisions/harvard-integrated-life-sciences )

(1)Last year all programs in HILS (BBS, BIG, MCO, immunology, chem bio, etc) accepted~396 students (2331 total applicants*17% admission rate), and the entering class is 210, which makes the yield rate ~53% .

(2)Since BBS is the largest cohort in HILS (~31% of the HILS), let's assume that the yield rate of BBS is similar to that number of the whole HILS. 

(3)In order to fill 65 spots, BBS needs to accept 65/0.53=122 students . If the # of spots to fill is 70, they need to accept 132 .

(4)~120 people will attend two interview weekends, and there are more internationals do Skype interview. Harvard BBS has ~30% intl students, let's assume that among 30%, half (15%) reside in the US and are already included in the 120, and the remaining 15% will do skype. The total interviewee number (onsite+skype)=120/(1-0.15)=142 . 

(5) The conclusion: BBS will interview ~140 students and accept 120-130 students, which makes the post-interview acceptance rate 86-93% . Not bad at all.

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5 hours ago, MCF10A said: I actually found some data on HILS website and did some math based on the data. The result confirms what @Epigenetics  just said: (source:  https://gsas.harvard.edu/programs-of-study/divisions/harvard-integrated-life-sciences ) (1)Last year all programs in HILS (BBS, BIG, MCO, immunology, chem bio, etc) accepted~396 students (2331 total applicants*17% admission rate), and the entering class is 210, which makes the yield rate ~53% . (2)Since BBS is the largest cohort in HILS (~31% of the HILS), let's assume that the yield rate of BBS is similar to that number of the whole HILS.  (3)In order to fill 65 spots, BBS needs to accept 65/0.53=122 students . If the # of spots to fill is 70, they need to accept 132 . (4)~120 people will attend two interview weekends, and there are more internationals do Skype interview. Harvard BBS has ~30% intl students, let's assume that among 30%, half (15%) reside in the US and are already included in the 120, and the remaining 15% will do skype. The total interviewee number (onsite+skype)=120/(1-0.15)=142 .  (5) The conclusion: BBS will interview ~140 students and accept 120-130 students, which makes the post-interview acceptance rate 86-93% . Not bad at all. So guess we can just chill      

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5 hours ago, MCF10A said: I actually found some data on HILS website and did some math based on the data. The result confirms what @Epigenetics  just said: (source:  https://gsas.harvard.edu/programs-of-study/divisions/harvard-integrated-life-sciences ) (1)Last year all programs in HILS (BBS, BIG, MCO, immunology, chem bio, etc) accepted~396 students (2331 total applicants*17% admission rate), and the entering class is 210, which makes the yield rate ~53% . (2)Since BBS is the largest cohort in HILS (~31% of the HILS), let's assume that the yield rate of BBS is similar to that number of the whole HILS.  (3)In order to fill 65 spots, BBS needs to accept 65/0.53=122 students . If the # of spots to fill is 70, they need to accept 132 . (4)~120 people will attend two interview weekends, and there are more internationals do Skype interview. Harvard BBS has ~30% intl students, let's assume that among 30%, half (15%) reside in the US and are already included in the 120, and the remaining 15% will do skype. The total interviewee number (onsite+skype)=120/(1-0.15)=142 .  (5) The conclusion: BBS will interview ~140 students and accept 120-130 students, which makes the post-interview acceptance rate 86-93% . Not bad at all. So guess we can just chill

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Was told by the secretary during Sys Bio interview that the acceptance rate was ~60%

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Does anyone know if Harvard BBS sends out the list of faculty that you'll be interviewing with?

1 hour ago, hippopotamus said: Does anyone know if Harvard BBS sends out the list of faculty that you'll be interviewing with?

Don't think so. Still waiting on that.

Got contact with my student host though.

8 minutes ago, desmond.bo said: Don't think so. Still waiting on that. Got contact with my student host though.

Did your grad student host contact you directly?

32 minutes ago, hippopotamus said: Did your grad student host contact you directly?

Yep. I suppose they are doing these independently. 

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Does anyone know when we hear back from Harvard BBS?

20 minutes ago, hippopotamus said: Does anyone know when we hear back from Harvard BBS?

From looking at the previous two years, it looks like the first round of interviews hears today.... not sure if that's the case this year, but that's how it has been previously.

10 hours ago, PhDHopeful3 said: From looking at the previous two years, it looks like the first round of interviews hears today.... not sure if that's the case this year, but that's how it has been previously.

Nothing happened to me today. Did you guys heard about anything?

56 minutes ago, desmond.bo said: Nothing happened to me today. Did you guys heard about anything?

i don't think anything came out today. maybe tomorrow

Nothing today!

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Nothing in the results section either

Come on BBS, let's try for today for week 1!

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Maybe they're adjusting how many people they admit this year based on last year's results which they told us was a very big class (~70-75). Since so many people accepted last year, they probably think a similar trend will occur this year, and of course those are huge numbers in terms of cost for the program. When we didn't hear back last week, I suspected something was up and perhaps (I suspect) the 1st group of interviewees won't hear back until after the 2nd interview. Basically, I think they are going to pool all interviewees and cut from that instead of each weekend (reducing the amount accepted in total). 

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After the publication of his first book, on the Moscow merchants in 1981 ( Capitalism and politics in Russia : a social history of the Moscow merchants, 1855-1905 , HOLLIS Number : 000949332 ), Owen widened the scope of his research to include corporations and business organizations throughout the Russian Empire. He continued his study of primary materials during subsequent visits to Moscow again in 1980, 1992, and 1996. Gaining access to and obtaining copies of the desired materials often meant facing challenges that were unusual for a Western researcher, as well as seeking the help of American library professionals. Thus, Marianna Tax Choldin, of the University of Illinois Library, was instrumental in helping Owen obtain the microfilm copies of Chizhov’s diary (the 1825-50 and 1873-77 portions) from the Lenin Library. Eventually, Fedor V. Chizhov became the subject of Thomas C. Owen's fourth book ( Dilemmas of Russian capitalism : Fedor Chizhov and corporate enterprise in the railroad age , HOLLIS Number : 009439804 )

Dilemmas of Russian Capitalism: Fedor Chizhov and Corporate Enterprise in the Railroad Age . Harvard Studies in Business History, no. 44.  Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2005. HOLLIS Number : 009439804

Russian Corporate Capitalism from Peter the Great to Perestroika .  New York: Oxford University Press, 1995. HOLLIS Number : 005835322

The Corporation under Russian Law, 1800-1917: A Study in Tsarist Economic Policy .  New York: Cambridge University Press, 1991. HOLLIS Number : 002072257

Capitalism and Politics in Russia: A Social History of the Moscow Merchants , 1855-1905 .  New York: Cambridge University Press, 1981.  Japanese trans. Tokyo: Bunshindo Press, 1987. HOLLIS Number : 000949332

Selected Articles

“Measuring Business Cycles in the Russian Empire.” Economic History Review 66, no. 3 (Aug. 2013): 895-916.

“The Death of a Soviet Science: Sergei Pervushin and Economic Cycles in Russia, 1850-1930.” The Russian Review 68, no. 2 (Apr. 2009): 221-39.

“Chukchi Gold: American Enterprise and Russian Xenophobia in the Northeastern Siberian Company.”  Pacific Historical Review 77, no. 1 (Feb. 2008): 49-85.

“Autocracy and the Rule of Law in Russian Economic History.”  In The Rule of Law and Economic Reform in Russia , edited by Jeffrey D. Sachs and Katharina Pistor, 23-39.  Boulder, Colo.: Westview Press, 1997.

 “Impediments to a Bourgeois Consciousness in Russia, 1880-1905: The Estate Structure, Ethnic Diversity, and Economic Regionalism.”  In Between Tsar and People: Educated Society and   the Quest for Public Identity in Late Imperial Russia , edited by Edith W. Clowes, Samuel D. Kassow, and James L. West, 75-89.  Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1991.

“A Standard Ruble of Account for Russian Business History, 1769-1914: A Note.”   Journal of   Economic History 49, no. 3 (Sep. 1989): 699-706.

“The Russian Industrial Society and Tsarist Economic Policy, 1867-1905.”  Journal of Economic History 45, no. 3 (Sep. 1985): 587-606.

“Entrepreneurship and the Structure of Enterprise in Russia, 1800-1880.”  In Entreprepreneurship in Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union , edited by Gregory Guroff and Fred  V. Carstensen, 59-83.  Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1983.

RUSCORP: A Database of Corporations in the Russian Empire, 1700-1914.  Ann Arbor, Mich. : Inter-university Consortium for Political and Social Research, [1993]. HOLLIS Number :  007702503 Internet Link : Data File http://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:hul.eresource:harvmitd

Edited Publications

Polunov, Aleksandr.  Russia in the Nineteenth-Century: Autocracy, Reform, and Social Change, 1814-1914 .  Translated by Marshall S. Shatz.  Armonk, N.Y.: M. E. Sharpe, 2005.  (Co-edited with Professor Larissa G. Zakharova of Moscow State University.)

Roosa, Ruth A.  Russian Industrialists in an Era of Revolution: The Associa­tion of Industry and Trade, 1906-1917 .  Armonk, N.Y.: M. E. Sharpe, 1997.

Russian Studies in History 35, no. 1 (Summer 1996), on entrepreneurship in the Russian Empire, 1861-1914, and 34, no. 1 (Summer 1995), on tsarist economic policy, 1893-1914. 

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Gabby Thomas can do it all on and off the track.

The 27-year-old is one of the fastest 200-meter sprinters in the world, having won the bronze medal at the 2021 Tokyo Games. She's once again in the finals at the 2024 Paris Olympics as the favorite to win gold.

In addition to her blazing speed, she's incredibly smart. Thomas studied neurobiology and global health as an undergraduate student at Harvard before going on to earn her Master's degree in public health. Her PhD may be up next in her educational journey, but the sprinter is focused on achieving her athletic goals at the moment.

The world likely already knows how fast Thomas is, but how smart is she? The Sporting News details her education history below.

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Thomas is not only extremely athletic but she's gifted in the classroom as well. She enrolled at Harvard University to study neurobiology and global health. She knew she wanted to study neurobiology since high school.

"I knew that I wanted to study neurobiology. I just didn't know what college I wanted to study it at," Thomas said on Cars and Culture with Jason Stein . "I was just really intrigued by just what you could do when you study the brain.

"I recalled seeing my twin brother going through some neuro treatments for his ADHD and seeing how effective that was. ... You can change lives with this."

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Just 3.2 percent of applicants are accepted into Harvard, according to 2022 numbers from Prepscholar.com . The university is widely considered one of the best schools in the world.

Thomas balanced being a full-time NCAA athlete and a challenging neurobiology major.

When she graduated from Harvard in 2019, she began her graduate studies at the University of Texas. She obtained a Master's degree in public health focused on epidemiology.

Thomas may not be done with her studies either. Her mother wants her to get her PhD next, though the Olympian is focusing on her Olympic goals at the moment.

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Thomas attended Harvard University for her undergraduate degree, graduating in 2019. She studied neurobiology and global health, which she had planned to do since high school.

The Olympic sprinter was named the Ivy League’s Most Outstanding Track Performer in 2017 and 2018. She won the NCAA title for the 200-meter dash in 2018.

After Harvard, Thomas enrolled at the University of Texas. She studied at the school's health science center to earn her Master's degree in public health, specializing in epidemiology. She graduated in 2023.

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